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 Sorting 9mm brass?
InfiniteGrim  [Member]
4/3/2010 6:43:53 AM EST
Just got a bunch of brass and i sorted it, now i heard al ot of people dont sort.

How do you not sort when i get completly different OAL with say WIN brass anf FC brass?
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MastaMarksman  [Team Member]
4/3/2010 7:06:26 AM EST
Originally Posted By InfiniteGrim:
Just got a bunch of brass and i sorted it, now i heard al ot of people dont sort.

How do you not sort when i get completly different OAL with say WIN brass anf FC brass?


I'm a bit OCD, so I sort all my brass be it pistol or rifle by headstamp. I even sort my LC brass by year.


You will find different lengths in the brass even with the same headstamp. The only real way to fix that is to trim your pistol brass to all the same length.. Almost no one trims their pistol brass though... The only real reason you might trim pistol brass is if you are trying to get 100% consistant OAL and/or your bullet has a cannelure.

Though I will say that I have had some 9mm brass that is right on the edge of being too long, Not sure if it was already to max length from the factory or if maybe it was shot out of a firearm with a huge chamber...

Most people don't waste the time to sort pistol brass by headstamp.. Again I'm OCD and like all my reloads in a run to be the same headstamp..

-Masta
cray6031  [Team Member]
4/3/2010 8:36:54 AM EST
I dont sort mine anymore. Like Masta said you will have various lengths on the same head stamp. Just because it say WIN of FC doesnt mean it is out of the same batch. Anyway just load them and shoot them and you will be gtg. Rifle, I do kind of sort because of all the steps involved you kinda have to.
SCW  [Member]
4/3/2010 10:35:58 AM EST
I don't understand how you get different OAL from different brass. The bottom datum is the bottom of the brass in the shell holder/shell plate, and the die pushes the bullet in based on it's adjustment as compared to the bottom datum, the brass simply holds the bullet to whatever depth the die is set to seat the bullet. If anything, the amount of bullet above the brass could change slightly, but I don't know anyone OCD enough to actually trim straight wall pistol brass.


In other words, stop sorting and start loading. Then go shoot.
AssaultRifler  [Team Member]
4/3/2010 10:49:33 AM EST
You need to sort. Weed out any AMERC, berdan primed cases, and once fired Nato cross stamped brass (which will usually have the primer pocket crimped which you can remove later). Weed out any 9x18 and 380 ACP brass that likes to sneak into 9mm feed stream. It's easier to weed out the cases before you try to reload them vs afterwards
SBR7_11  [Team Member]
4/3/2010 2:14:19 PM EST
I been sorting for yrs.

Then load in batch by headstamp, usually 1000 at time. Between head stamps with 9x19, I find they run .745 to .748 as the common measure, random find a .750 case.

Makes for more consistant crimp when loading by headstamp, 1 crimp adjust per case run.
GHPorter  [Team Member]
4/3/2010 3:02:51 PM EST
Do sort. As AssaultRifler points out there are cases you DO NOT want, like AMERC headstamps and Berdan primed cases. I keep crimped primer cases-I tend to use GI cases for heavier loads and commercial cases for lighter loads. But you really DO want to sort out the crap before you actually invest time and energy in trying to process any of it.
ireload  [Member]
4/3/2010 3:22:57 PM EST

I purchased 1,000 piecse of brass and sorted them out after tumbling. I removed 3 chicom brass, 6 380 brass, 1 38 super brass, and 10 with over cut and I mean over cut primer pocket. I can push in a primer with my finger. I trimmed the rest of the brass with Lee case trimmer. I'm OCD with brass lenght. I like even crimp on my rounds.
ViniVidivici  [Team Member]
4/3/2010 3:24:25 PM EST
How different of a case OAL are you experiencing, OP? Couldn't be that much, not enough to matter. I for one don't measure or trim straight walled pistol cases.................never had a problem.

Only "sorting" I do is, as others above have stated, getting rid of the shit, like AMERC, cases with crimped primer pockets, steel cases, stuff like that. For me this is generally accomplished while inspecting the brass.

Don't think I've ever come across a Berdan primed 9mm case, but I'd toss it if I did.
ARkie  [Member]
4/3/2010 4:27:23 PM EST
I have sorted 9mm in the past, I was having a bad problem with cases not fitting the chamber and the only brand that seemed to not have the problem was WIN. I would sort out the winchester and use them for my IDPA loads and the rest for practice, then it started happening to the WIN brass . I went so far as to get a Lee factory crimp die to try to fix the problem. I then found the root problem, it seems that you have to clean out your dies occasionally I had such a buildup of copper/brass shavings in the seat die that it was causing the cases to get overcrimped and bulge slightly causing them to stick in the chamber.
InfiniteGrim  [Member]
4/3/2010 5:18:30 PM EST
Originally Posted By ViniVidivici:
How different of a case OAL are you experiencing, OP? Couldn't be that much, not enough to matter. I for one don't measure or trim straight walled pistol cases.................never had a problem.

Only "sorting" I do is, as others above have stated, getting rid of the shit, like AMERC, cases with crimped primer pockets, steel cases, stuff like that. For me this is generally accomplished while inspecting the brass.

Don't think I've ever come across a Berdan primed 9mm case, but I'd toss it if I did.


I have been reloading 9mm for only a few weeks, i was reloading with mainly WIN brass. I was using 124gr JHP's that were rather large and were a very tight fit in my xd's chamber, all of the rounds loaded using FC brass were just enough longer that the rounds were hitting the rifling and wouldnt chamber.
Pumpkinheaver  [Member]
4/3/2010 5:27:15 PM EST
Plinking loads I dont sort them.

Match ammo I do.
dryflash3  [Team Member]
4/3/2010 6:14:37 PM EST
I'm a sorter, rifle or pistol. But I have enough brass to allow this.

In 9mm, I'm using only Win brass, I started with a 5 gal bucket and have in reserve a bucket of RP and FC.

I sold off the rest of the headstamps.
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