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 H&K P2000 SK LEM vs S&W M&P Compact
Mack3234  [Member]
12/13/2008 7:34:43 PM
I need a new gun for concealed carry. My two choices are the H&K P2000 SK LEM .9mm or the S&W M&P Compact .9mm. Which do you recommend and why. Thank you.
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Justin-Kase  [Team Member]
12/13/2008 8:05:29 PM
S&W, cheaper and better attitude toward their customers.
I like the M&P better anyway,
America-first  [Team Member]
12/13/2008 9:35:30 PM
The M&P is a fine pistol; perhaps the best of the plastic guns.

Stainless barrel.

Stainless, through hardened rather than case hardened, slide.

Front and rear slide rails are part of a single stainless chassis rather than independently anchored to the polymer frame.

The chassis and frame are fitted to resist gumming up and are to some extent self cleaning.

Can be taken down without the need to pull the trigger.

Excellent Novac sights standard.

Three changeable grip swells are included to match the grip size to your hand.

Great grip angle.

Low bore axis over the frame.

Excellent double stack magazine design.

Extraordinarilly reliable.

Made in America.
erichmess_  [Member]
12/13/2008 9:45:56 PM
My knee jerk reaction is to say the M&P. They're a great gun. HOWEVER, you should rent them and shoot them for yourself and find out which one YOU like. It's a little expensive and a pain, but it's better than buying the wrong gun, which is a much more expensive and painful mistake.

EDIT
I also see you live in California, so no high caps (it'll soon be that way for all of us). If that's the case, I might suggest something with more stopping power, like a .40. I've notice that there's A LOT of .40's for sale in EE, you might want to check that out as well.
bshizzle  [Member]
12/14/2008 10:59:21 AM
Buy nice or buy twice.

I had glocks for years and tried to go to MPs (because I liked the feel of them).

Neither of the two I bought new could reliably feed (I bought one when they first came out and one a year later) - and I've had many steel framed S&W semi autos - IMO only get a SW if it's a revolver.

HK P2000sk is a great gun and that's why I own one.

ETA: If you want something besides the HK and not lose reliability I'd go with a glock 26

SkagSig40  [Team Member]
12/14/2008 12:33:37 PM
Glock 19!
MaverickH1  [Member]
12/14/2008 2:22:42 PM
I made the choice for the P2000sk. It fit me well, I liked the LEM trigger, and I knew it would be reliable. The only thing I don't like about my P2000sk is that the slide release on the right hand side has become very loose. Enough that you can hear it rattle when you walk. It's fixable, and it certainly doesn't do that on every one, but it's the only common problem on this series of gun.

If I could take only one firearm with me on vacation, the P2000sk is it. In front of the USP tactical with a laser/light combination and CCF suppressor. The P2000sk goes. It conceals very well, and you can drop the subcompact mag and insert a larger capacity USPc/P2000 mag with an X-grip to make for a better self defense gun. And a light can be attached as well. I believe the M&P can do that as well. But if I'm not mistaken, the M&P compact is bigger than the P2000sk in length and height by about 0.5", isn't it?

If the M&P is larger, I'd give the nod to the P2000sk for absolute certain. And I would be willing to bet your are less likely to get a lemon gun if you get the HK.

Originally Posted By Justin-Kase:
S&W, cheaper and better attitude toward their customers.


Interesting to lump those two together. Back when HK had poor customer service, S&W was making a deal with the devil to back door some gun control onto the US citizenry. HK's CS is fine, now. Their only problem is that they might not always have the spare part you're after. But the beauty is, you won't need any parts!

Originally Posted By America-first:
The M&P is a fine pistol; perhaps the best of the plastic guns.

Stainless barrel.

Stainless, through hardened rather than case hardened, slide.

Front and rear slide rails are part of a single stainless chassis rather than independently anchored to the polymer frame.

The chassis and frame are fitted to resist gumming up and are to some extent self cleaning.

Can be taken down without the need to pull the trigger.

Excellent Novac sights standard.

Three changeable grip swells are included to match the grip size to your hand.

Great grip angle.

Low bore axis over the frame.

Excellent double stack magazine design.

Extraordinarilly reliable.

Made in America.


You practically just named a lot of things that could apply to both the M&P and the P2000sk. Except of course for the "made in America" bit. HK can't claim that
erichmess_  [Member]
12/14/2008 6:20:31 PM
Congrats on the buy! I'm sure you're going to be happy with it
bshizzle  [Member]
12/15/2008 10:32:34 AM
Originally Posted By erichmess_:
Congrats on the buy! I'm sure you're going to be happy with it


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Mack3234  [Member]
1/20/2009 12:04:21 AM
Thanks for the feedback. I Haven't had a chance to buy anything yet. Glock is not a option ( my Department doesn't authorize them ). Has to be a .9mm because I am looking for something small and easy to conceal.

Between the two ( H&K P2000 SK LEM .9mm or the S&W M&P Compact .9mm) which one is smaller/ easier to conceal?

Thanks again.
Hero  [Team Member]
1/20/2009 5:55:16 AM
Originally Posted By America-first:
The M&P is a fine pistol; perhaps the best of the plastic guns.

Stainless barrel.

Stainless, through hardened rather than case hardened, slide.

Front and rear slide rails are part of a single stainless chassis rather than independently anchored to the polymer frame.

The chassis and frame are fitted to resist gumming up and are to some extent self cleaning.

Can be taken down without the need to pull the trigger.

Excellent Novac sights standard.

Three changeable grip swells are included to match the grip size to your hand.

Great grip angle.

Low bore axis over the frame.

Excellent double stack magazine design.

Extraordinarilly reliable.

Made in America.


Great post!
Bolted  [Member]
1/20/2009 10:28:29 AM
The P2000Sk.

Both pistols are in my household. I've shot both, disassembled, and cleaned both. The HK is superior. I carry mine every day.

I have dealt with HK customer service 3 times, all positive experiences.
ALPHAGHOST  [Team Member]
1/20/2009 8:27:28 PM
BOTH are great guns and i would NOT hesitate to own/carry either

try both, decide for yourself

me: i'd probably opt for the MP myself simply due to costs
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