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 FFL for a stripped lower?
TROUTDIVER  [Member]
1/18/2008 8:45:17 AM
I have not even bought a AR15 yet and I am allready tring to lay out a plan to build one. My question is, Do you need to buy a stripped lower from an FFL dealer, even though it does not have any of the hardware installed.
kevind  [Dealer]
1/18/2008 8:51:09 AM
YES
N2CH_556  [Member]
1/18/2008 8:52:19 AM
Yes, the lower is considered the actual weapon by the BATF and therefore requires a FFL for purchase. Everything else, e.g., upper, parts kit, stock, etc do not require a FFL.

Other than that, you could purchase the lower from someone in your state FTF (Face To Face) and then order a rifle kit from Del-Ton or any of the other vendors here, put it all together and you're good to go. Don't forget to post pics when you're done.
RobRat  [Team Member]
1/18/2008 10:13:53 PM
Hit this link at Gunbroker.com:

gunbroker.com/User/DealerNetwork.asp

Put your zip code in, and hopefully you can find a FFL close to you and cheap. I found a guy just down the road that does rifle transfers for me for $15. They have to send a copy of their FFL to the Lower Vendor, before they will ship out the lower. You may want to contact the FFL holder and see if they have a relationship with any AR receiver vendors, as it would speed the shipping up if they already had a FFL at the vendor.

After that, the US Mailman or the Bug Brown truck delivers the rest to your door- -and your money goes to Visa. Darn this BRD!
dragrcr65  [Member]
1/19/2008 1:27:11 AM
Well actually NO....... you dont have to "buy a stripped lower from an FFL" but it must be shipped to one, you can buy it from whomever you want.....
BionicSniper  [Team Member]
1/19/2008 2:00:51 AM
Best way IMO (unless you want a billet or mega) is to go to a gun show
ALPHAGHOST  [Team Member]
1/19/2008 2:29:06 AM
AR lower (wheter stripped or complete)=the firearm

involves the FFL
TROUTDIVER  [Member]
1/19/2008 11:58:24 AM
Thanks fo the info everyone. I do have an FFL dealer, he's been sick with the flu the last 6 or 7 days and haven't been able to ask him about getting a lower. He has a couple of Stags in stock but he doesn't have a supplier to get parts to build. The gun I have desided to get will probably take 6-8 weeks from what I have read which will put me at about the same time as a couple gun shows here. I'll probably get a complete gun and build one at the sametime. Thanks again
RenegadeX  [Member]
1/19/2008 12:00:43 PM
3 wrong answers, 1 correct.
TROUTDIVER  [Member]
1/19/2008 12:03:08 PM
One of my top 3 reason to leave NY.
FordGuy  [Member]
1/20/2008 4:49:01 PM

Originally Posted By RenegadeX:
3 wrong answers, 1 correct.


your type of post bugs the devil out of me, since if you know the correct answer why don't you say so? I'm new to this section and have no idea what the 1 correct one is!!!
WhyTanFox  [Team Member]
1/20/2008 5:07:16 PM

Originally Posted By RenegadeX:
3 wrong answers, 1 correct.


Really? Which one is correct?

-WhyTanFox

ar15inmn  [Life Member]
1/20/2008 5:11:08 PM

Originally Posted By WhyTanFox:

Originally Posted By RenegadeX:
3 wrong answers, 1 correct.


Really? Which one is correct?

-WhyTanFox



Well actually NO....... you dont have to "buy a stripped lower from an FFL" but it must be shipped to one, you can buy it from whomever you want.....

Was the correct answer.

If you are having one shipped in it must go to an FFL ( a stripped lower is considered a firearm), If you buy one from a private party FTF you are o'k as long as that is acceptable (by law) where you live.


WhyTanFox  [Team Member]
1/20/2008 5:49:09 PM

Originally Posted By ar15inmn:
you dont have to "buy a stripped lower from an FFL" but it must be shipped to one, you can buy it from whomever you want.....

Was the correct answer.

That's what I figured...

but how many people selling stripped lowers are not FFL's? And if we're really splitting hairs, he could also buy a lower face-to-face from a same-state resident, no FFL dealer required.

To enumerate all his options:
* buy in person from an FFL dealer located anywhere
* buy online from anyone (FFL dealer or not) and have shipped to a same state FFL
* buy in person from a same-state resident
and the super-duper, I-think-legal-in-NY-but-may-not-be answer:
* buy an 80% "lower" and finish the manufacturing of the lower yourself -- no FFL involved

But for the most part, the "3 wrong answers" may have been incomplete, but I don't think they were wrong. They were certainly the easiest advice to follow...

-WhyTanFox




Rich219  [Team Member]
1/20/2008 7:54:32 PM

Originally Posted By TROUTDIVER:
One of my top 3 reason to leave NY.



Where in NY are you located? There are a few cheap FFL's around the do $20 transfers.
TROUTDIVER  [Member]
1/21/2008 4:31:38 PM
Skaneateles, you know were Bill and Hill spent a couple of summers.