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 COLT AR-15 .223/5.56 Vs 7.62x39
ArticWolf  [Member]
5/19/2007 6:56:16 AM EST
All things being equal when C Products has a Combat Ready Mag, (please lets not argue over the Mag issue) would you consider any of the following?

1. Be a stick in the mud and not change.
2. Converting from .223/5.56 to 7.62x39.
3. Add a 7.62x39 upper to your collection.
4. Add a full working COLT AR-15 7.62x39.

As I have used both calibers in the AR-15 format, I have found that the recoil from the 7.62x39 is not that much more than the .223/5.56. I do like the ability to use the 7.62x39 for hunting and harder hitting round over the .223/5.56.

Your opinion?

ArticWolf
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BIKECOP29  [Team Member]
5/19/2007 6:58:52 AM EST
Would it be as rugged and reliable as an AK47?
ArticWolf  [Member]
5/19/2007 7:04:06 AM EST


Originally Posted By BIKECOP29:

Would it be as rugged and reliable as an AK47?



The debate over the M/16 and the AK47 will last beyond our lives here on earth. Both have their strong and week points. However, I was trying to limit the subject to the AR-15/M16, as the platform with the change in calibers, not weapons.

ArticWolf
dpmmn  [Team Member]
5/19/2007 7:14:26 AM EST
I have passed up on a couple of 7.62x39 Colt's just because of the magazine availability.
When CProducts is ready to release their contribution I might have to pick one up
twl  [Industry Partner]
5/19/2007 7:21:13 AM EST
From the responses that I get from our customers, the 7.62x39 caliber seems to be a very popular choice.

I think alot of people would enjoy it.
It's a real fun cartridge, with some additional benefits of larger caliber and heavier bullets than 5.56, which many people seem to like, and it allows deer hunting with the AR in the states where there is a caliber restriction of over .240 bore size.

Also, ammo is very plentiful, even if it isn't as low cost as it used to be.
Old-SF-MJT  [Member]
5/19/2007 5:06:54 PM EST
Personally, I'm a fan of the "one of each" option! Have one of each in carbine format. Got the 7.62 version as a kit from Model 1! Built it up on a RRA lower. I've bragged about her before on these boards.

Setting aside the magazine issue, I am extremely pleased with it. Using good ammo - Llapua - she'll consistently do an honest 1 1/4 in at 100m. I have my 5.56 & the 7.62 set up almost identically so they handle just about identically. The recoil from the 7.26 IS a bit more than from the 5.56 unit, but ONLY a little!

BOTH handle great! And each has its strong features! In mid-range situations, the 7.62 shines - better stopping power, better barricade penetration. Oddly, the 5.56 seems to pick up the slack at either end of the range contiuum! It shines in indoor situations where over-penetration is an issue AND at longer ranges where the 7.62's trajectory becomes a handicap.

As a "Hurricane Katrina Rifle," I think a 7.62X39 AR would be the weapon of choice! Damned near perfect! IF we get the mag issue resolved. WHEN we get the mag issue resolved!

YMMV!
Old SF
RickE7  [Team Member]
5/20/2007 12:28:55 AM EST
I've run a Colt for many years but the only draw was cheap ammo.

Now that I'll be back to reloading (primarily) it'll see a LOT less use.

5.56 brass = free

7.62 brass = $$$$
InterestedBystander  [Member]
5/20/2007 5:44:17 AM EST

Originally Posted By ArticWolf:

3. Add a 7.62x39 upper to your collection.
4. Add a full working COLT AR-15 7.62x39.

ArticWolf


I picked up a Colt upper a few years back. With no AWB, I've since contemplated a Colt lower and having a full dedicated 7.62x39. Eagerly anticipating availability of some quality magazines.
ArticWolf  [Member]
5/20/2007 1:39:27 PM EST


Originally Posted By InterestedBystander:

I picked up a Colt upper a few years back. With no AWB, I've since contemplated a Colt lower and having a full dedicated 7.62x39. Eagerly anticipating availability of some quality magazines.



I have a DPMS lower. If and when I find a Colt lower without the block, I'll swap out. Not long ago I had the chance to do so and the alignmnet was great. Just something to think about...

ArticWolf
InterestedBystander  [Member]
5/20/2007 4:11:32 PM EST

Originally Posted By ArticWolf:
If and when I find a Colt lower without the block, I'll swap out. Not long ago I had the chance to do so and the alignmnet was great. Just something to think about...

ArticWolf


My upper seems to align fine with an existing Colt lower which does have a block and I've never tried it on anything else. I'd pefer one without a block but I haven't seen any in a while at the local gun shows but I'll admit I haven't really looked lately either.

Every year politicians keep trying to get a state AWB or Mag restrictions passed although they haven't been successful yet. This year the focus seems to be on a "high cap" mag ban so I hope the 7.62 mags hit production sooner rather than later.
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